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Cipher Jones
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Posted - 2012.03.27 03:34:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:This has been hanging over my head since Thursday when I stumbled away from the Alliance Panel with a vague sense that I had done something horrible. I didn't know the extent of how much of a shitheel I had been until today, when footage of the presentation went up. As many of you now know, I gave out the in-game character name of a Mackinaw miner if anyone had wanted to blow him up - except that I was so smashed that I didn't recall exactly what I said (as anyone who was there can tell you). When I came to the forums the other day and saw threads complaining about my behavior - not remembering what I'd said - I assumed that I was enduring the usual anti-Goonswarm trolls, and posted something like "deal with it~" in my usual "The Mittani" way.
Then I landed, and saw the article listing my actual quote.
Christ.
I feel absolutely ashamed of my behavior at the Alliance Panel. It's one thing to play a villain in an online roleplaying game - when I post on these forums or on twitter, I usually do so as 'The Mittani', and do my level best to convince everyone that I'm an unrepentant space villain, as that kind of facade provides an in-game advantage to me and my alliance. But I am not that character in real life, as anyone who has met me can attest. I went way, way, /way/ past the line on Thursday night by mocking the Mackinaw miner at a real-life event. I, as a person, am not the entity that I play in EVE; I am not actually a sociopath or a sadist, and I certainly don't want people to kill themselves in real life over an internet spaceship game, no matter what I may say or do within the game itself. CCP may say 'EVE is Real', but EVE is not real - and the line between the game and reality should not be overstepped.
I'm relieved to discover that the Mackinaw miner is doing fine and mining away, despite being blown up by Goonswarm in-game. He deserves, and he has, my heartfelt apologies - here in public as well as a private apology. There's no excuse for what I did - while some might try to use my inebriation as a mitigating factor, I put myself in that compromised mental state, and the guilt of that is entirely mine.
If I could go back in time and not have included the slide mentioning the miner, I would do so. While the Eve Online character "The Mittani" would never apologize for any sort of villany in game, I myself, as Alex Gianturco, feel utterly ashamed and sickened by my behavior.
You should step down before they remove you so that when its all said and done you can look back and say you did the right thing. I have heard the rumor that you are a lawyer, but even if (though) you aren't you should realize that CCP's assets will be seizeable if anyone presses charges.
As you said yourself, there is no excuse for it. Every minute you continue to serve on the CSM contradicts that statement, as you are excusing yourself.
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Cipher Jones
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Posted - 2012.03.27 03:46:00 -
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Andski wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:You should step down before they remove you so that when its all said and done you can look back and say you did the right thing. I have heard the rumor that you are a lawyer, but even if (though) you aren't you should realize that CCP's assets will be seizeable if anyone presses charges.
As you said yourself, there is no excuse for it. Every minute you continue to serve on the CSM contradicts that statement, as you are excusing yourself.
look at this internet lawyer so adorable
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Cipher Jones
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:02:00 -
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EnderCapitalG wrote:You. You there.
Cipher something. Yeah you.
Stop posting the truth, it really hurts me on the inside. I try to pretend it doesn't using sarcasm as my proxy, but everyone with an I.Q. of over 95 can clearly see right through me like the lingerie in a Mexican whorehouse.
I'll work on that for you.
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Cipher Jones
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:38:00 -
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Xython wrote:Jacob Staffuer wrote:Kitfox Mikakka wrote:de4deye wrote:The reality is that a person's life matters much more than this game, no matter how much goon trolls want to try to cover up these posts. This is not a 12 step program, it doesn't matter that mittens was drunk - it is no good excuse to make fun of a suicidal person. Mittani knew what he did was wrong, which is why he is trying to cover his tracks with a quick and simplistic "I was drunk, wasn't my fault, I'm a victim too" excuse. Except he said his drunkenness is no excuse for how he acted in the ******* apology. It'd be awesome if any of you people bothered to read his post instead of immediately coming in to crucify a guy who's genuinely sorry about ******* up. But in the beginning he says "I was drunk and didn't remember." Is being drunk an excuse or not? It seems like he can't make his mind up about it. It seems he's only apologizing because he f-cked up in a major way in front of everyone. If this had been some private matter and he showed a powerpoint at a Goonswarm convention, and someone quietly blogged about it, do you think he'd be writing a formal, public apology? F-ck no. Amazing how many sockpuppets are also telepaths. I think we need to get a grip. All he did was make a tasteless joke. You assholes act like he pulled out a kitten and performed a live vivisection or something. Oh wait, it's Mittani, so literally anything he does is "TEH WORST THING EVER." Stupid pubbie sheep. Also: Reported for censorship bypass.
I act like he publicly disgraced an online community that I am a part of and ask for it to be dealt with accordingly.
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Cipher Jones
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:52:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:de4deye wrote:de4deye wrote:No matter how many of Mitten's friends come on here trying to defend his non-excusable actions, the fact remains that this will not be simply smoothed over with his "I was drunk" apology, nor any other. The game politics of who's alliance you are in has nothing to do with this. Mittani must be reprimanded for his severe actions against this poor suicidal person he had targeted to mock and make fun of in spite of his situation. It is very stange how some would openly allow and feel no remorse for this sick and sadistic behavior exhibited by Mittani. Monsters will be monsters, I suppose. Would that be be the poor suicidal person that joked about his "I want to die after my divorce statement"? Or the poor suicidal person who was completely unaware that he was supposedly being "cyber bullied", and could care less about all this nonsense?
Weather or not the person was suicidal is completely irrelevant to the argument from both a legal and PR standpoint. rembourcer ou vous ne pourez plus miner en paix !!-ánous n'aimons pas les pirate !!-áno rembource mi declare war for you |

Cipher Jones
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Posted - 2012.03.27 05:00:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:de4deye wrote:de4deye wrote:No matter how many of Mitten's friends come on here trying to defend his non-excusable actions, the fact remains that this will not be simply smoothed over with his "I was drunk" apology, nor any other. The game politics of who's alliance you are in has nothing to do with this. Mittani must be reprimanded for his severe actions against this poor suicidal person he had targeted to mock and make fun of in spite of his situation. It is very stange how some would openly allow and feel no remorse for this sick and sadistic behavior exhibited by Mittani. Monsters will be monsters, I suppose. Would that be be the poor suicidal person that joked about his "I want to die after my divorce statement"? Or the poor suicidal person who was completely unaware that he was supposedly being "cyber bullied", and could care less about all this nonsense? Weather or not the person was suicidal is completely irrelevant to the argument from both a legal and PR standpoint. oh i remember now, cipher jones, you're that moron who was like "all forms of ganking is griefing, which is considered a bannable offense eula etc, and CCP Y U NO enforce your own rules" a while back
Show me that quote and Ill biomass. Otherwise HTFU and GTFO.
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Cipher Jones
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Posted - 2012.03.27 05:17:00 -
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Disambiguation;
It matters legally in the sense that the charges are harsher if there is intent, but no the lack of intent does not make it legal either. rembourcer ou vous ne pourez plus miner en paix !!-ánous n'aimons pas les pirate !!-áno rembource mi declare war for you |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 05:36:00 -
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Why would I biomass? You were wrong on top of being wrong. It's pretty laughable. rembourcer ou vous ne pourez plus miner en paix !!-ánous n'aimons pas les pirate !!-áno rembource mi declare war for you |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 07:02:00 -
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Kai Tel wrote:I guess its pretty funny to hear Goons troll everyone else in game with terms like "pubbie." I know over time, I've come to think of them as "wall boogers." You know? The left overs on the bathroom stall door in a public rest room after some jerk needing a dump decided to clean out his nose too? Unfailingly they line em all up in a row...
Makes em look just like goons. Wall boogers each and every one.
That's pretty harsh talk mister.
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:58:00 -
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Seleene wrote:OFFICIAL: The CSM are discussing recent events and will issue a public statement after a few days.
OFFICIAL: if CCP doesn't do something today they are a terrible company.
And its after business hours across the pond already.
Wasn't the first speech given at fanfest "We ****** up, we are sorry, we won't do it again?"
They already did it again. Their lack of action has cause irrevocable damage in the PR department once again.
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Cipher Jones
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Posted - 2012.03.27 23:46:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:supr3m3justic3 wrote:For a Goon: Understandable. For a CSM: Unacceptable. I'm glad to see you are, almost word for word, in agreement with Mittani. Well said.
Right. And he continues to accept it.
Proving his words are worth nothing when held against his actions.
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Posted - 2012.03.28 00:14:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:supr3m3justic3 wrote:For a Goon: Understandable. For a CSM: Unacceptable. I'm glad to see you are, almost word for word, in agreement with Mittani. Well said. Right. And he continues to accept it. Proving his words are worth nothing when held against his actions. Since this whole issue is based purely on his words, which according to you are worth nothing, then he has literally done nothing wrong... especially when he took no "action" to harass anyone at all. Thanks for clearing that up.
He is still bound to face the consequences of his words no matter the value that they hold to me, just as we all are. And you understand that perfectly well.
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